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With today's gas prices surpassing $1 dollar mark people are becoming more interested in other fuel alternatives. Hybrid vehicles are getting more and more popular as well, but what other alternatives do we have?

It has been proven for years that our cars will run perfectly on fuels such as liquid propane (also known as LP) and natural gas. This technology has been around since mid 60's and is currently being used by approximately 350,000 vehicles in North America. Most popular vehicles include forklifts, taxi cabs, public buses and some trucks. Now this kind of technology is getting more attention from everyday car owners.

Advantages to converting your car to liquid propane (LP) are:
- cost, average price for propane is at around 50% less than regular gasoline
- you'll stop destroying the air we breathe
- easier on your engine, no build up, your spark plugs will breathe easier too
- your engine performance and mileage per litre are about the same
- you can simply switch between running your car on regular gasoline or propane
- equipment can be uninstalled for use in your next vehicle.

Disadvantages to converting your car to liquid propane (LP) are:
- costs involved in switching (parts, labor, etc.)
- Fewer stations are equipped with propane filling station (you have to get accustomed to which stations have it - and there are lots of them - this is not a big deal) Be sure to visit our pages on propane filling gas stations.
- Heavier wallet with all the money saved driving on propane.

So, how do you convert your car to run on propane or natural gas? There are lots of places where you can take your car and have it converted to LP. Please stay tuned as we are working hard to locate some for your convenience. Some of the parts you will have to purchase for the conversion are the fuel tank (to hold liquid propane or natural gas, usually stored in your trunk or underneath the car if you decided to completely get rid of your gas tank), converter which converts the liquid to gas, spud-in jet and the rest is hardware.

The installment of the above mentioned equipment is not something we would recommend for you to try at home. This is not a do it yourself project, as this is a precision process and the equipment has to be fine tuned by a licensed professional in order for your car to work properly.

For more information and resources please visit following:
Canada:
Propane Gas Association of Canada
Ontario Propane Association
USA:
National Propane Gas Association


*If you have already converted your vehicle to liquid propane or natural gas send us your comments or photos and we'll post them on our site.

Gas prices in Ontario on the rise - should we start switching to liquid propane (LP) or natural gas

Ontario Gas prices- Sept. 1 05

Sunoco - April 2006

April 2006 -
Gas prices stay at around $1 dollar mark.

Average price of unleaded - $1.15*
Average price of propane - $0.45*

*Prices as of Apr. 2006

Propane Tank in shape of spare tire

New propane tank design.
Shaped to fit in place of your spare tire.

 Comments:
  From: Shayne, Kelowna BC (11/25/2005 3:32:02 PM)
  Comment: I have recently converted my truck from gasoline to propane, new quoted $4000 after taxes, with used components it cost me a total of $3000. Are there any government incentive programs, tax breaks etc to absorb this cost? Shayne, Kelowna BC
     
  From: Cdnauto (11/26/2005 2:32:51 PM)
  Comment: Yes, you should get a tax break from your provincial government. For the province of British Columbia please visit http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/bchighways/
     
  From: Cdnauto (12/16/2005 8:33:23 PM)
  Comment: We are currently acquiring more information from one of the local shops in Mississauga (20 min. west of Toronto) specializing in converting cars to propane. Owner claims to be importing all his parts from Europe where this practice is much more popular. Since European gas prices are much higher than ours, their equipment is much more stable and far more efficient than north american products.
     
  From: Chris, Ontario (4/16/2006 6:13:42 PM)
  Comment: What different is it about propane and natural gas? Is there a difference between these two. Can you get same mileage on propane as you would on natural gas? Also, is there a difference in your car's performance, less horse power etc.
     
  From: Rob Keelen, B.C. (4/26/2006 9:37:02 PM)
  Comment: As far as I know natural gas can not be compressed same as propane. Propane you can liquify, natural gas you can only compress it, therefore you will get more propane inside the tank.
     
  From: Shawn (4/27/2006 5:04:49 PM)
  Comment: That's why they call it LP (Liquid propane). I know that natural gas can be liquifed, question is: can you liquify natural gas for use in cars? as compressed natural gas in cars is simply not practical.
     
  From: Question. (4/28/2006 9:01:55 PM)
  Comment: I have 1996 Ford (will not last much longer), if I switch it to natural gas and my car dies 6 months later, what then? Can this be transferred between vehicles?
     
  From: Neil CLark (5/15/2006 1:38:44 PM)
  Comment: your milage is only 3% worse when properly set up. The biggest problem is that in California they make it so you can't get a converted vehicle registered.
     
  From: Richard (5/16/2006 4:39:49 PM)
  Comment: If you live in Toronto area please call Propane Conversion Auto Centre at 1-800-220-5513. They will be able to help you.
     
  From: Stan (Chicago) (6/4/2006 1:34:15 PM)
  Comment: I guess all the SUV owners would be really interested in this. All the money gone down the drain.
     
  From: Jack Boston 6/6/2006 (6/6/2006 10:23:33 AM)
  Comment: I would like to find out the amount of time it would take to pay back the cost of switching over to propane. My car averages about 25 MPG can you estimate the milage with propane and an update estimate for the cost to switch ver from gas to propane? Thanks, Jack
     
  From: RIck (6/6/2006 3:49:24 PM)
  Comment: Jack - You can't calculate it based on time. It all comes down to how much you drive. Driver doing 100,000 km per year will get his money back much faster than someone who only drives 20,000 km.
     
  From: law trainee (6/21/2006 12:02:21 AM)
  Comment: they are resistent because the state makes billions a year in gas taxes. its easier for people to sneek around conventional fill up places. One would just take natural gas from your home heating instead or propane from other places based on use.
     
  From: Jim from Buffalo NY (7/4/2006 3:47:00 PM)
  Comment: I am researching a possible conversion of a Dodge Intrepid to natural gas/gasoline, but have been unable to find any shops in this part of NY. Where would be the closest in Ontario?
     
  From: Cdnauto (7/4/2006 4:03:38 PM)
  Comment: Jim from Buffalo - Please see above 1-800 number posted on 5/16/2006)
     
  From: Peter (8/11/2006 10:54:48 AM)
  Comment: I just want to update that Propane Auto Conversion Centre with a new website: http://www.allautopropane.com They have fuel injection systems for under $3000 installed.
     
  From: Alex from Vancouver (8/21/2006 8:57:26 PM)
  Comment: Where i can get propane tank design *(Alex, did you try the above number, please be aware that this is in Ontario) Shaped to fit in place of your spare tire or under the trunk? Thanks a lot for your site.
     
  From: Cng Kit For Sale no Tank (8/22/2006 6:47:47 PM)
  Comment: If anybody is interested in buying a CNG KIT, give me an email at sm9764@msn.com...... It will cost you $1500.00 + shipping. Top of a line made in ITALY called "LANDIRENZO" and ACCUMULATER made in ARGENTINA. All parts(Hardware) is included in a kit. The Tank is not included in that kit. you should buy a tank from a certified dealer. If you wanna buy just a CNG kit with out accumulater than it will cost you $1200 + shipping. Kit comes with a installation instruction. Let me know if you have any question...email: sm9764@msn.com
     
  From: Frank (2/12/2007 10:58:33 AM)
  Comment: You can find information about propane conversions at http://cars.rasoenterprises.com/Propane.htm and a discussion forum at http://fuelsforum.rasoenterprises.com
     
  From: Bang Gully (2/15/2007 11:51:25 AM)
  Comment: The advantage of CNG is that it will be more efficient (saves a lot of money) but the disadvantage is that it will take life away from your engine (eg if it were to last for 5 years, it would be cut down to may be 3.5 years). There are plenty of CNG/propane filling stations throughout Toronto. Plus it really helps out the environment and takes away money from these ruthless corporations.
     
  From: Cdnauto (2/15/2007 3:51:29 PM)
  Comment: Thank you for the information Frank
     
  From: Dominik (3/6/2007 2:11:56 AM)
  Comment: For Canada Conversion Stations: http://www.tssa.org/regulated/fuels/programs/fuelsQuality02.asp Weekly Gas / Propane Price List: http://www.mjervin.com/WPPS_Public.htm Half of Europe drives on Propane. Why won't you? Gas shortage my you know what. Imperial Oil's refinery burns, so why do all other guys jack up the prices? Boycot unleaded, go with a Diesel car which does 1,000 km on a tank (VW TDI for eg.) to better yet go with propane. If you have a newer vehicle and plan to keep it, convert and start saving
     
  From: Big Stu (4/16/2007 3:52:23 PM)
  Comment: I see a lot of people asking for information on Natural Gas Vehicles. I got My 1980 Chev Pickup adapted to run on Both Gasoline and Natural Gas back in 1991, in Vancouver. Since then, I've only had to replace a $70.00 part. This technolgy is bullet proof, and Natural gas is very clean burning. My oil and spark plugs stay amazingly clean. After using this technolgy for 16 years, I highly recommend it. For information on where to get your vehicles adapted to run on both gasoline & natural gas go to www.cleanenergyfuels.com
     
  From: Peter (7/4/2007 11:04:52 AM)
  Comment: Why have a kit shipped from Italy? Convert your own car with a Canadian designed and winter condition tested fuel-injection system for approximately $1100 CDN (depending on vehicle make and model). All new parts and help with installation available right here in Mississauga. 1-800-220-5513. www.allautopropane.com
     
  From: Frank (2/25/2008 5:39:27 PM)
  Comment: For those people looking for a conversion shop in Canada or the USA, try the following web pages: http://www.rasoenterprises.com/cars/Propane-AmericanFacilities.htm http://www.rasoenterprises.com/cars/Propane-CanadianFacilities.htm You can convert your Prius to LPG or CNG but the payback would be uneconomic. It is also impractical to refill your vehicle from your house because the fuel would transfer too slowly.
     
  From: Joseph Interdonato (6/8/2008 5:16:07 AM)
  Comment: I live in Italy and own a 1994 infinity J-30. It's a real gas guzzler, so i had it converted to LPG. The smartest thing i did, considering i spend half the money to fill up now and don't pollute anymore. Today's PLG systems are truly efficient, and highly recommend the conversion.
     
  From: GM (6/18/2008 10:04:18 PM)
  Comment: For those who converted your vehicles to Natural Gas, Have you had any problems to register the vehicle?
     
  From: John (7/3/2008 5:03:37 PM)
  Comment: GM, before anyone answers you wrong, there is no right answer. All depending on where you live, which province or state the laws may different, however, times have changed and I would be shocked if anyone was giving you a hard time registering your vehicle. So, to be safe, call your local registry office and make sure.
     
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