Comments:
From:
Erness Wild (1/21/2009 3:12:19 PM)
Comment:
Natural Gas is stored as a compressed gas. Propane is stored as a liquid and changes to a gas only when released from the tank to burn in engine.
From:
Joel (2/10/2009 11:45:57 PM)
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Yes, a cleaner burning engine will result in shorter engine life if the greater combustion efficiency results in higher combustion temperatures. Does anyone know how hotter does propane burn than unleaded fuel?
From:
Brian (5/15/2009 12:24:50 AM)
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I have a 1990 Ford E150 302cu in V8 engine auto. van converted to dual fuel propane/gas. I drove over 400,000km almost trouble free km with propane. The engine runs nice. doesn't burn oil. I only replaced the spark plugs about 100,000 - 150,000km because I thought I should. The oil stayed fairly clean replaced every 5000km. I did replace the distributor cap and rotor annually to make sure it had a good hot spark. I saved a lot of money on fuel. I could have easily converted many more vans with the money I saved. It was used in a business with careful bookkeeping and close track of expenses. I was very pleased with the propane.
From:
Jack Toronto (5/19/2009 11:34:06 AM)
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I have recently converted my 2003 Mitsubishi Montero to an BRC Italian system called Sequent 4 Plug & Go . What a difference, the truck runs smooth and the most important thing half the price at the pomp. There are more and more people doing it in Ontario. Half Europe is going on propane and its the smart thing to do (for now) sooner or latter the gas companies will have to something about it, like increase the price of propane.
From:
Jake (8/5/2009 3:06:45 PM)
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We install the BRC Kits for both propane and CNG we have had great success with the BRC, If anyone is looking for info feel free to contact Me through Hi Tech Auto Care, we have been installing/converting vehicles since the early 80's
From:
Matt (8/16/2009 8:34:55 AM)
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Jack of Toronto, How much did you pay in total for installing the BRC Sequent 4 Plug & Go and where did you get it done in Toronto. I believe this is the latest and best sequential fuel injection technology from BRC (http://www.brc.it/). If the price is right I am considering to have the dual system installed.
From:
Alex (9/21/2009 5:02:15 PM)
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For any info for any Canadians with propane, or wanting great propane conversion prices, please go to http://www.autogaspropane.com/PDF/2009_ConversionFlyer.pdf
From:
Frank (10/5/2009 11:58:47 AM)
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For those people interested in converting their diesel-powered vehicles, Technocarb (www.technocarb.com) has recently introduced their new EcoDiesel System, which is a diesel-propane dual fuel system. It lowers fuel costs by supplying propane to a diesel engine, which reduces diesel fuel consumption.
From:
Cliff Oshawa (11/14/2009 7:34:04 PM)
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I have a 1976 Chevrolet Class A Motor home with a 454 cu in engine and have traveled across both Canada and the U S A and love the fuel economy and savings that I get compared to what I would get from gas. I have done approx. 500,000 miles on it.
From:
Rudy Grant (12/5/2009 9:27:51 PM)
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Check out www.autopropane.com
We are the largest conversion centre in Canada.
We install the Prins Vsi system.
Most of our customers have limos and put over a million kilometers on their vehicles.
We have been converting vehicles for over 25 years.
From:
Stephen V.B (12/14/2009 4:42:35 PM)
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One problem with propane that's not mentioned is what happens if you run out - you can't just get a can of propane. I have heard of adapters to use a small portable tank but don't know it works. I have a truck with a permanently mounted tank and an outside fill. I can't just dangle a tank off the side of the truck. I have room to add a compartment for a spare tank. Does anyone know if and how I could hook up a spare tank with a selector switch? If you do please email me at stephenTheObdurate@gmail.com. Thanks
From:
Frank (1/8/2010 9:45:51 AM)
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Modern propane and CNG conversions are all dual fuel. This allows the system to keep all of the systems (including emission control) in the vehicle intact and fully functional. You can set the propane/CNG system to never use gasoline but that doesn't make sense if the gasoline tank is still in the car. As for the spare tank, this is possible but likely impractical according the installation code.
If you're in the GTA, Robinson Auto Tech Services (905-545-9705) does first class work at a fair price. Niagara-area residents should contact Brock Ford Sales (905-357-5450 - service). Either one can help you find a solution.
From:
JJ Joseph (1/11/2010 12:33:49 PM)
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If you're concerned about engine life with LPG/CNG, one of the biggest reasons that fork-lift trucks use LPG/CNG is long engine life. The oil doesn't get dirty, and the cylinders & rings last "forever". Lift trucks run at full throttle all day long, year after year. You can't do that on gasoline!
From:
Victor (3/24/2010 7:42:59 AM)
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For those mentioning various systems be careful, with the new rules governing propane conversion equipment in Canada adopted July 2009 many of these systems are not approved for installation in Canada including BRC, at this point only 2 systems are approved and they are Prins and Landi Renzo. These two are number 1 and 3 in the world for market share with Landi leading the way. I hope this helps and remember keep it legal.
From:
Lina (5/6/2010 7:55:36 PM)
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Where I can find information about approved systems and components?
From:
EDUARDO (5/14/2010 11:13:05 PM)
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i live in albuquerque nm and i cant find a mecanic to fix my f-350 nobody wants to mess with propane does anyone know somebody please respond to ebarajas3804@live.com thanks
From:
Steve (5/31/2010 11:14:14 AM)
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If you are near the Bancroft area and would like more information on getting your vehicle converted to propane email me at stevenyanch@hotmail.com
From:
Frank (6/23/2010 5:55:40 AM)
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There is directory of propane and cng conversion shops for both Canada and the USA at www.rasoenterprises.com.
From:
Bernd (7/4/2010 11:56:22 AM)
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I am German, with a small vehicle workshop and build an LPG Autogas installations. I am planning my move to Canada in 2012, Nova Scotia-Richmond County. There I set up an automotive workshop, in which gas facilities with European top brands to be installed.
Are there interested in this County for r an installation of an LPG system?
From:
Clyde Murray (7/6/2010 4:35:40 PM)
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I have a used "Tartarini RP/76" CNG/auto fuel conversation for sale. crmurray@telus.net
From:
Canack (7/9/2010 7:12:11 PM)
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Bernd, Do your research before your move, make sure you are familiar with our loving governments rules and regulations. Things may not be as easy as you may think. Yes, our country is all about being “Green” and stuff (not !) yet our governments do everything possible so little person like me has one hell of a time trying to do the right thing. I tried to connect solar panels to my house (and the grid), city of Toronto has a plan for people like me. They will “allow” me to do it, but! My property taxes will increase (because my house is more valuable) and I would have to pay taxes on any income my panels would generate for me (that’s if I pump more into the grid then I use) In the end I gave up on the idea, I pay for my electricity, I loose, government wins, everybody’s happy. Welcome to Canada.
From:
Steve (8/4/2010 10:01:46 PM)
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Can I convert my Nissan/Murano 05? and where is the best/good price to do it...
From:
Robert (8/22/2010 6:51:51 AM)
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Steve in mississauga,service and price for injection system will be approx $3400
From:
the real true (9/10/2010 8:48:33 PM)
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Be very cautious if you’re thinking of getting Natural Gas. Apparently the government stopped all rebates and Shell is pulling out of the program. They have majority of the fill up stations in Ontario. I guess the people running the program aren't doing what they need to!!!
From:
Bruce (12/5/2010 10:36:07 AM)
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I've got two very nice LP tanks that I would like to sell cheap. they came off a dodge truck and were used for a very short time Windsor area .
bruced_500 at sympatico.ca
From:
Travis (12/18/2010 6:35:24 PM)
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As of January 11/2011, Shell is permanently closing down vehicle natural gas filling. Shell won't be getting ANY of my business for gasoline or any other product!!
I am upset!
From:
Frank (12/30/2010 6:19:44 AM)
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Regarding natural gas, depending upon the application, a CNG conversion can have a faster payback than a propane conversion. However, the range is much less so it's important to a have a CNG station nearby. If not, a CNG compressor may be rented from the gas company at a reasonable cost. For example, a FuelMaker C3 is available from Enbridge for $90/month + installation. For those of you with diesel trucks, Technocarb now has a diesel-CNG version of their EcoDiesel System, which displaces ~30% diesel with CNG. With an FM C3, CNG will cost ~$0.40/DLE (Diesel Litre Equivalent), so this can significantly lower your fuel costs.
From:
hank (1/23/2011 7:10:46 PM)
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i have been considering an lpg system for my 2005 gmc pick-up and have been told that because of the aluminum heads its not a good idea, can anybody help
From:
Frank (1/28/2011 9:36:44 PM)
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The only issue with those heads is soft intake valve seats on the 4.8L & 5.3L engines and you would have the same issues with gasoline as well. Most injection conversions would work well in this application but Technocarb's ESIP system would be the most economical.
From:
Michel (2/17/2011 12:30:20 PM)
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My information is that the Technocarb diesel conversion system is still in testing and has several issues that remain to be ironed out there are few solutions available at this time for Diesel but Prins Autogas has a Diesel Blending technology that has also come out lately. Given their successful history for Propane kits on the fuel side they are a good alternative to look into.
From:
West (2/17/2011 9:06:40 PM)
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According to Enbridge, Propane leaves 20 times the emissions as compared to CNG.
From:
Jack (2/26/2011 2:56:10 PM)
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I am driving every day from Cambridge ON to Toronto. My car is a Mazda 3, 8 months old with already 36K. Who might be the best professional to convert my car?
What would be the cheaper to run system; LP, Natural Gas, or CNG?
I want to make it legal and avoid possible problems. Someone sooner was talking about only 2 legaly approved systems.
From:
Frank (3/7/2011 1:34:56 PM)
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Michel: your information on the Technocarb EcoDiesel System is incorrect as it's been commercially available for a long time now. The Prins Dieselblend system is probably a good system too. As for emissions, both propane and CNG have low emissions when properly set up. I think it's more important to consider fuel availability and price. A lot of CNG stations are gone now so, if CNG emissions are important to you, you might need to put in your own VRA. CNG is usually cheaper than propane but more difficult to find and won't go as far on a tank.
From:
GEORGE (3/11/2011 8:36:59 PM)
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I have driven my LPG(only) powered truck for 20+yrs. No problems. The experts say the typical longevity of a converted internal combustion engine is about 3 times that of a gasoline powered vehicle.
From:
Saul (3/16/2011 11:55:07 AM)
Comment:
I am looking for a natural gas licensed mechanic shop to work on my van, in the Metro Vancouver area.
From:
Bob (3/28/2011 3:44:10 PM)
Comment:
There is North American system with the lieder "prinse" and European system with the leader: "BRC"(Italy). The European system is very good!
Be careful both system need special valve! For brc it is valve saver electronic and for prinse-valve care! Without these valves, the engine can be ware very quickly, that's why be very careful!
From:
Renx (3/30/2011 7:45:26 PM)
Comment:
Is there any updated site or list to see refilling station for auto propane? Most of the site link here are outdated. Is it safe to assume that if a gas bar refills tank (barbQ), i can also bring my auto propane car for refill? Thanks
From:
Cdnauto (3/30/2011 7:59:11 PM)
Comment:
Renx, no it is not safe to assume that if a station fill bbq tanks they will also fill your car. If you find station(s) in your neighbourhoo that fill cars with propane come back and share with rest of us.
From:
Renx (3/31/2011 7:53:48 PM)
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haven't found that one yet.. I am in Brampton, Ontario. I am no better off having a car running on propane as i consume all my savings in gas (and a lot more) in trying to find propane refill station.
From:
Garry in Vancouver (4/4/2011 5:42:16 PM)
Comment:
Saul Del's Auto Service in New Westminster works on NG vehicles - 604-526-9811. It is difficult to find both mechanics and filling stations in Van. compared to 10 years ago.
From:
Alan (4/5/2011 12:05:24 AM)
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Saul, Try Fidel Automotive on Powell St in Vancouver.
From:
Cory (4/6/2011 12:25:08 PM)
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I have a 2007 Chev 5.3L Flex Fuel. I have been looking at buying a conversion kit and installing it my self. Is there any reason I wouldn't want to do this?
From:
Saul (4/23/2011 1:55:12 PM)
Comment:
Found several stations in Vancouver serving natural gas, Chevron has the lowest prices at 1.03 Kg and Petro Canada 1.24 Kg. Chevron stations are Boundary @ 12th and First St @ Nanaimo.
From:
M3 (4/24/2011 10:42:27 PM)
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Anyone in Ontario thinking of think of doing a conversion, think twice. Shell has pulled out of the Natural Gas program and enbridge has done nothing yet to solve this issue. This leaves like 4 refueling stations in the gta area.
From:
Capt Howson (4/26/2011 1:49:53 PM)
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Good day, I'm here in Bellingham just over the border from VancouverB.C., Can anyone recommend a shop in the Vancouver or Bellingham area that could do a natural gas conversion for me...It would be on a V-8 ford motor.....additional, where I could rent or buy a n.g compressor for home use? Thank you.
From:
M3 (4/26/2011 2:34:56 PM)
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Also I thought I would mention that propane users, in Ontario, should also be concerned as Shell has also planned to stop selling propane for cars. I always thought it was about the environment & providing better choices but it sounds more like greed now
From:
pete (5/3/2011 12:01:39 PM)
Comment:
I had a propane powered car in Ontario for 5yrs it was in an accident and the wreaker pulled the engine for himself said it was like new the propane kept it so clean he still has it today for about $1000 buck us you can add a system your self as my friend did and i am doing when i replace my car next the only down fall i ever saw was in winter i ended up using propane on hwy only as the engine needed to be hot to get advantage of the fuel i will be going back especially at 1/2 the price you will need a laptop to install by the way
From:
Bruno (5/4/2011 12:04:12 PM)
Comment:
I am trying to find a LP conversion Kit for my 2007 Infinati QX56 I live in Florida
please email me at
antonettarodi@yahoo.com
From:
larry (5/5/2011 11:46:32 AM)
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be leery of natural gas conversions! I had two Chevy vans converted to NGV and the fuel burns so hot it will burn the valves out of the engine. unless you have ordered a special engine designed for ngv -do not convert standard engines.
From:
Mike (5/12/2011 12:41:40 PM)
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Thinking about converting my truck to LP, Im in the hamilton area and there are about 5 or so stations within 30km which is great. My concern is will they be around in a 10 years? or gone in a few? just like CNG. cant decide...
From:
Robert (5/12/2011 1:16:01 PM)
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Mike, nobody can predict the future,glad to hear that you have lots of stations around though, hope they keep selling the product.
From:
Justin (5/13/2011 10:23:42 PM)
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That comment is false propane engines last longer then gasoline engines hands down I've been in the propane business my whole life and anybody that has been around and worked on propane powered cars and trucks can attest to that even propane lawn mowers last almost twice as long as gas powered and you save by not having to change oil as often
From:
lee (5/15/2011 8:11:18 AM)
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Renx, M3 or anyone: Where are the closes propane filling stations to Brampton??? THANKS
From:
Joseph (5/18/2011 9:31:27 PM)
Comment:
Looking for good LP conversion center in Ontario, Canada. This is for a GMC 2002 Savana 3500 SLE long wheelbase van with 5.7L V8 OHV 16 valves Vortec engine. Please email your recommendation to bee_leung@hotmail.com. THANKS.
From:
rob. (5/26/2011 1:01:54 PM)
Comment:
have propane system for f150 ford for sale open to offers
From:
Rudy Grant (5/28/2011 1:44:36 PM)
Comment:
www.autopropane.com
From:
fred (6/2/2011 6:59:26 PM)
Comment:
could somebody tell me how much this conversion system costs.roughly
From:
fred (6/2/2011 7:03:07 PM)
Comment:
anybody knows that after installing the system how much
would be the gas millage then.
From:
Mark (6/5/2011 7:05:36 AM)
Comment:
Hi Rob; I'm interested in your propane system for sale. How do I contact you?
From:
mike (6/6/2011 12:06:11 AM)
Comment:
Is it true that you can't convert a vehicle that is fuel injected into LP?
From:
Vic (6/6/2011 5:53:20 AM)
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looking for a installation center for propane for my Honda CRV 2007. Drove one in Germany for a month, was great had use of both gas & gasoline please email me at voya@juno.com I live near New London. Thanks
From:
juan (6/17/2011 11:21:28 AM)
Comment:
i have been considering an lpg system for my 2000 ford f 150 pick-up and have been told that because of the aluminum heads its not a good idea, can anybody help
From:
juan (6/17/2011 11:23:40 AM)
Comment:
Is it true that you can't convert a vehicle that is fuel injected into LP? rivers1022@yahoo.com
From:
j rivers (6/17/2011 11:34:40 AM)
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Hi Rob; I'm interested in your propane system for sale. How do I contact you? may email rivers1022@yahoo.com
From:
tony (6/18/2011 2:41:55 PM)
Comment:
anyone no where i can buy a used 120 litre tank
From:
Al (6/21/2011 5:11:18 AM)
Comment:
I had a dedicated propane only about 15 years ago and It was great except for around minus 20 Celsius when it wouldn't start
Now I have an Avalanche and had it installed for $4300 tax in. @ .43 .64 cent/liter it paid itself off in 1.5 years.$50/tank
From:
Richard (7/11/2011 7:21:58 PM)
Comment:
I have one question about propane conversions. How much propane would you need to use in order to get the equivalent of 1 litre of regular gasoline? or what is the propane to gasoline ratio
From:
Chris (7/18/2011 10:48:33 AM)
Comment:
Is anyone aware of propane conversions for MGB engines or have any info on same? If so please email csbuchaneer@gmail.com
Thanks
From:
Eddie (8/24/2011 11:17:02 AM)
Comment:
I have 04 gmc top kick that runs on propane, how expensive would it be to convert to natural gas or if it is possible. can anyone help
From:
Nathan (8/30/2011 1:11:35 AM)
Comment:
Im trying to convert my lexus in puerto rico do you know anywhere where i might do this in PR?
From:
Ted (9/8/2011 3:47:01 PM)
Comment:
Convert your diesel or gasoline engine to propane assist (injection) Realize over 30% mileage gains. Increased power, Simple install, approved for use in Canada.None of the hassles of dedicated propane systems, and much more economical. www.ecoshot.ca.
From:
RB (1/3/2012 3:07:41 PM)
Comment:
To Richard: there is a 10-15% consumption rate of LPG over gasoline so you would use a little more propane to obtain the same mileage as gasoline.
From:
Saqib (1/18/2012 7:47:05 PM)
Comment:
I drive Taxi in City of Toronto for my living, and own a Dodge Caravan 2008, since I bought change into LPG fuel, I drove almost 300,000.00 KM trouble free, no loss of power and no problem with engine and transmission.
From:
Pat (1/29/2012 8:05:52 PM)
Comment:
I have 2 newer Dodge Trucks running on the Prins system and each truck has over 400,000 Km's with no problems whatsoever. System is flawless!!!
From:
Sam (1/29/2012 9:47:34 PM)
Comment:
Does anyone know the cost involved in converting to propane in Toronto area.
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